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Egypt's revolt for change...what then?

Tue Feb 8, 2011 1:13 PM EST
world-news, egypt, protests, muslim-brotherhood, egyptian-revolution, mahfouz
By iqbal.latif

In FT today, Gideon Rachman asks ‎'Which revolution will Egypt choose?'

My answer was that if we take the symbolism of the flag shown, I would think the natal course of revolution would be the one on the left though not Qom style but Akhwan based, i.e., Muslim Brotherhood which is the intellectual and philosophical guru of radical political Islam. The Ayatollahs are less inclined in allowing suicide bombings but some factions of Islamic brotherhood justify radicalisation using annihilation of moderate ideologues as a tool of policy.

Today, the unfolding developments in Egypt’s revolt are new changes, under glaring eyes and information overflow. Unlike the West’s, Islam’s ‘renaissance’ is being played out instantly and through live coverage. It is emergence of long awaited renaissance but it will take its course of history and will go through anarchy. Imagine guillotines and beheadings, burning of books and inquisitions, all being played live on CNN and Fox 24-7 – this is the challenge of new reformation; either perish or live with the world. Any other revolution through history has resulted in freedom, but here they are talking about its genesis.

There is a tendency in the Islamic world where revolutions result in introversion because they want to apply laws of 1400 years ago today. Google, Twitter and internet-based open revolutions are subject to ordinances of Scriptures revealed in the desert; it is borne within and contradictory. Either injunctions of the Scriptures will survive or Google and internet-based will. And this is one of the reasons technology is frowned upon by despotic monarchs, emperors and dictators. Knowledge was and is considered an impediment for governance, therefore this is the background in which the Egyptian revolution is being viewed – with cautious optimism. Certainly, we are excited about freedom and hearing its “voice” but also concerned about the two-steps-forward-six-steps-back approach, if Khomeini’s revolution is anything to go by or Nasserite revolution against the monarch. With the historical backdrop of revolutions in the Islamic World, I’m afraid this incipient renaissance might just be nipped in the bud.

A 'Google based revolution' in the world of connectivity interbred with the will of Allah under tutelage of Muslim brotherhood will be classic revisionism of free will. The twain shall not co-exist, revolutionary zeal ala Political Islam style is antithesis of a revolution. This needs to be understood by those liberals who are gong course in seeing this freedom being sought by some who will murder this freedom. There should be no liberty for those who kill liberty.

After fifty years of wasted opportunity, some of the sons of present radical revolution will drift to the right, i.e., secular democracy; freedom of mind and separation of state from religious dogma. A repressed Muslim Brotherhood, which is the Sunni equivalent of Qom based clergy, will be a destabilising force for some time in Egypt. Be prepared for a new alliance of evil -Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic brotherhood. The peace treaty of Israel that has kept Egypt out of the dirty game of death will experience new stresses led by a radical Middle East.

From Libya to Saudi Arabia, a new ideological curtain of rejectionists is in the offing. Fractious liberals in Egypt led by Baradei face a great challenge to feed the mouths of an exploding populace and create jobs; this needs less of ideology and more of pragmatism that unfortunately is missing from the agendas of the present fundamentalist opposition.

A little over a week before the crisis in Egypt during the onset of the Jasmine Revolution in Tunisia, I wrote that:

‘…Countries like Egypt, where nepotism and effort to install Gamal Mubarak are clandestinely underway, must also be very worried at the origins of this major North African uprising. Governments across the Middle-East are scrutinizing the events, quickly unfolding in Tunisia after the toppling of Ben Ali by a popular uprising, with anxiety and fear. In Algeria, Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, Syria, Yemen, Libya and even the Emirates and Saudi Arabia, the Arab rulers have a fear of popular uprising from their own respective oppressed populations inspired by Tunisia’s Jasmine Revolution. Though it is absolutely important to realise that the revolution in Tunisia is not in its content a clarion call for popular 'Arab revolt' or the beginning of revolution seasons across the Middle East. The poverty levels at which a common man lives in majority of these countries are appalling…

…Present day revolutions are rooted in the beliefs that direct and unilateral action is possible and justifiable and that a super power should embrace and push for opportunities for democracy and security. These revolutions succeed because they are the culmination of patient efforts; a result of a policy that actively promotes democracy and freedom in all regions of the world. The global openness and interactivity of information has created a world that has no place for totalitarian rule and autocrats…’

Enlightened and free minds extend the frontiers of human knowledge and understanding. Puritanical adherence to dogma kills the spirit of inquiry. Today, students at our seminaries rarely study the works of Avicenna, Al Kindi or Averroes. When scholars and “free thinkers” are termed as ‘heretics,’ the intellectual capacity and capability of man is destined to go nowhere but down. Today’s “democratic” ideas in the Islamic world are deemed as “borrowed,” according to Egypt’s newly-appointed Vice President Omar Suleiman. What most leaders in the Arab World don’t realize is that freedom of thought, pursuit of knowledge and tolerance, not bigotry, is the answer to the crisis the Islamic societies face.

Some Muslims have lamented the fact that despite being 19.6 percent of the world's population, the Ummah has produced only three Nobel laureates whereas Jews — only 0.2 percent of the world's population — have produced 122. The explanation is simple. Once orthodoxy choked off the rationalist initiative, intellectual decay took hold. Prof Ahmed Zewail, the only Arab to ever win a Nobel Prize for science, has said: "The end will begin when seekers of knowledge become satisfied with their achievements." Yet, our renaissance was extinguished not by the complacency of the scientist but by the intolerance of the dogmatist. Egypt’s own Naguib Mahfouz, another rare Arab Nobel Laureate (in literature), poignantly said in his acceptance speech, “I am the son of two civilizations that at a certain age in history have formed a happy marriage. The first of these, seven thousand years old, is the Pharaonic civilization; the second, one thousand four hundred years old, is the Islamic one. One day the great Pyramid will disappear too. But Truth and Justice will remain for as long as Mankind has a ruminative mind and a living conscience."

Revolutions are inspired by these prophets and so-called “heretics” of 'Enlightenment.' Until Iranian/Arab enlightened philosophers are brought ahead of the sacred writings no 'revolt' is possible. Revolutions only succeed when a society is able to embrace new realities. If society chooses to live in space of decadence and old thought, any revolution will only be a tool to accelerate its fall to ignominy and disasters.

Today people are confused at the nature of Egypt’s revolt. What kind of freedom are they seeking? Will it meet the fate of Iran’s revolution which descended into total anarchy after the Shah followed by a disconnect with the modern world in the ensuing three decades? Revolutions should bring some kind of enlightenment. Liberty seekers should not become killers of liberty once they are in power. People on the street want their freedom but there looms a question mark on the intention of the new incoming leadership representing the very same “freedom.” If a revolution means replacement by another dictatorship, then what we will have is a failed movement. Liberty truly means acceptance of secular liberal democracy as a way of life and designating religion to its right place, restricted to the belief that it is a private matter between you and God.

Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt is the mother of all intellectual radical movements of the world. It provides the philosophical bedrock to the right wing entities who believe that the Islamic way of life will rule the world one day. This continuous 1400-year old romance with the idea of bringing back the “Golden Age” is very much clear in the fringes of the Egyptian revolution. It is this notion of nirvana through God’s system that will not bring any real change in Egypt. Freedom through the ballot box means that those who are friends of freedom and liberty should continue to ascendancy and those who want to instill radical dogma as a policy of statecraft should lose out. This is the real challenge for Egyptians – to understand that to progress means universal education, to progress means universal rights to all minorities, to respect their places of worship; to progress means understanding the unique feature that their thought is not superior to anyone else’s and to coalesce various demands into one charter of basic rights – this is what the Egyptian opposition should look for. The resumption of geopolitical confrontationist policies and ties with failed radical movements of the region will only lead to major disasters.

Egypt’s immediate goals should focus in providing immediate employment to its youth, increase the productivity of its farms, use the Nile, its lifeline, to its maximum efficiency, maintain peace on its borders and act as mature freedom-seekers in the Middle East and show the way around to all the other despotic governments. The litmus test for people’s revolutions that bring down their governments is more prosperity and more freedom, although this is a difficult goal to achieve. History shows us that a revolution becomes a “hope for a revolution”, followed by anarchy, then the strongman, then education, before the course matures to evolve a “free society.” It is education that makes peoples responsible revolutionaries. It may be a tall order, but Egyptians should act responsible. They belong to a much-beloved ancient civilization, they are the descendants of the great Pharaohs. They have to act in a manner where this brave revolution does not end up in collapse of the Egyptian economy which is agrarian and tourism based.

Freedom means more incentives for people, education, employment, more hard work, and a responsible attitude towards mankind at large. Egypt is a linchpin in the region; it is the center of a scholarly Islam. It has no room for enemies; its only enemies are its self-sustaining demons of the past. This revolution should bury all those demons and continue the peace that Egyptians have chosen. Their biggest foe is the streak of radical self-destruction that will bring ideological polarization back to square one as in 1973, which will only lead to total annihilation.

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larrrs

Great article,

Freedom through the ballot box means that those who are friends of freedom and liberty should continue to ascendancy and those who want to instill radical dogma as a policy of statecraft should lose out. This is the real challenge for Egyptians – to understand that to progress means universal education, to progress means universal rights to all minorities, to respect their places of worship; to progress means understanding the unique feature that their thought is not superior to anyone else’s and to coalesce various demands into one charter of basic rights – this is what the Egyptian opposition should look for. The resumption of geopolitical confrontationist policies and ties with failed radical movements of the region will only lead to major disasters.

  • 10 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Feb 8, 2011 4:39 PM EST
The "warrior" of islam

The tentacles of Muslim brotherhood! Genesis and Reformation

http://kkahn8.newsvine.com/_news/2011/02/09/6018774-the-tentacles-of-muslim-brotherhood-genesis-and-reformation

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Wed Feb 9, 2011 2:03 PM EST
The "warrior" of islam

Obama's overgeneralizations are a dangerous precedent: Algebras and magnetic compass plus paper came from cross fertilization of Islamic societies with the sub-continent and China. An American president has to be careful with reference to history. Giving credits of accomplishments without highlighting the cause will further add to moans and groans of a society that fails to understand the reason of its continual decline in the field of intellect for last 1000 years.

http://kkahn8.newsvine.com/_news/2011/02/09/6018908-the-cairo-speech-and-its-repercussions-on-egypt-and-islamic-world-at-large

  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Wed Feb 9, 2011 2:17 PM EST
The "warrior" of islam

The Brotherhood is just another leopard whose spots will be transformed by the President Obama's message of "change." In fact, all the President's men are telling the press, off the record of course, that Obama's 2009 Cairo speech -- chock full of apologies for U.S. misbehavior -- actually caused the potentially catastrophic changes now occuring in Egypt.

  • 4 votes
#1.3 - Wed Feb 9, 2011 4:38 PM EST
Zac Aaron

The Muslim Brotherhood is the source of jihad in the Middle East (and, for that matter, in the U.S. where the FBI has proven that it operates through the Muslim Student Association and other fronts). Its Palestinian branch, Hamas, is a terror organization whose charter calls for the annihilation of Israel. In fact, Osama bin Laden was a graduate of the Brotherhood and so was the mastermind of 9/11, Sheik Khalid Mohammed! So in suggesting that the Muslim Brotherhood can be a democratic partner in Egypt, the Obama White House -- so quiet when real democrats were being killed on the streets of Teheran in 2009 -- has outdone even the Carter administration's destabilization of the Shah of Iran in 1979 and its welcoming of the theocratic fascist Ayatollah Khomeini as a "saint."

In the current chaos of Egypt, the radical left and its radical Islamist allies see possibilities. This unholy alliance wants a takeover by the Muslim Brotherhood because this would be the most dangerous possible outcome for the U.S. and Israel. They want to persuade the American people that the Brotherhood is actually committed to "democracy," not hatred and violence. And even now, while pulling its punches with an eye toward attaining power with a hands-off assist from the Obama White House, this sinister organization admits that it will tear up the Egyptian-Israeli agreement of 1979, which means that Israel will be once again under the gun as it was in the first few years of its existence and that a war engulfing the whole of the Middle East is once again on the table.

  • 4 votes
#1.4 - Wed Feb 9, 2011 4:49 PM EST
Zac Aaron

Military coup like Algiers

Most unfortunately Egypt freedom revolution will suffer the fate of Algeria. Muslim Brotherhood will win the elections like 'Islamic Salvation Front' but will not be allowed to govern. The Muslim Brotherhood is the source of jihad in the Middle East and confrontation in Middle East will be disastrous. Egyptian army like its Algerian brothers in arms will go for a massive clamp down minus Mubarak.

In December 1991, the Islamic Salvation Front (FIS), an Algerian political party, had won national democratic elections, proving to be immensely popular. However, before the parliamentary seats could be taken after January 1992, the Algerian military violently overturned democracy. The parliamentary elections that would have brought the FIS to power were cancelled by the Algerian army. The army rounded up tens of thousands of Muslims who supported the winning party and threw them into concentration camps in the midst of the Sahara, to be tortured and abused.

Subsequently, the army took power, democracy was eliminated, and the popular FIS was scattered

  • 4 votes
#1.5 - Wed Feb 9, 2011 5:04 PM EST
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worldcurmudgeon

One day the great Pyramid will disappear too. But Truth and Justice will remain for as long as Mankind has a ruminative mind and a living conscience."

I agree with this to a certain extent, I would say, judging by the looks of world history, that the Pyramids may out last these two stalwards of decent human conduct. We see governments built on deceite, corruption, terrorism, and misdirection. Is it that we don't know the good from the bad anymore. What has happened to make this happen, we have taken the lesson's learned from history and insist starting all over again as if we had nothing to learn from working together, living together, and just plain getting along.

  • 7 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Feb 8, 2011 6:31 PM EST
backroads

Thanks for your view, iqbal. It is sorely needed around here.

  • 6 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Feb 8, 2011 7:41 PM EST
Neron Kesar

The litmus test for people's revolutions that bring down their governments is more prosperity and more freedom, although this is a difficult goal to achieve.

I have always thought of the general happiness of the people as a gauge of success.

You offer may good, timely reflections on the changing times. I see a greater role for religion than perhaps you do, but people must have freedom to choose for themselves whether or not to believe. I do not think strict secularism is the answer.

I am considering a new economic system and Middle Eastern trans-national currency as an answer to many problems.

  • 6 votes
Reply#4 - Tue Feb 8, 2011 9:58 PM EST
RAY FRIEDMAN

MAtbe secularism is not the ultimate solution for Egypt . but freedom of choice and equqlity will only assure the progression to a better life for the people and allow Egypt to prosper once again as a leader in the middle east.Religion shopuld feed the souls and the political stuctures need to be outside the religious influences as to not be oppressive.

  • 4 votes
#4.1 - Wed Feb 9, 2011 4:40 AM EST
The "warrior" of islam

You offer may good, timely reflections on the changing times. I see a greater role for religion than perhaps you do, but people must have freedom to choose for themselves whether or not to believe. I do not think strict secularism is the answer.

Any Synagogue, Church, Mosque or Temple that falls short of revitalization and development of this key faculty of a dynamic self balance of living becomes a ritual or just an addictive drug. There is regrettably no final truth in this world...

http://iqballatif.newsvine.com/_news/2009/06/28/2977281-some-godly-and-other-not-so-godly-thoughts

  • 2 votes
#4.2 - Wed Feb 9, 2011 9:47 AM EST
nahid aktar

I see a greater role for religion than perhaps you do,

My idea of religion is different. I believe if religion fails to turn your inside button of self-examination on, it is not worth it. You know what my religion is? It is as Abraham Lincoln said: When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad, and that is my religion. Now writing about it is one thing, making it a part of your daily routine of self-equilibrium is reasonably an overwhelming challenge.

This is the test of religion I subject myself to every day. It is how often I feel bad, which I try my level best not to experience frequently. If the balance of self-examination is not hijacked by hypocrisy, one would feel bad the moment he commits an excess. This is the system one develops to maintain self-correction. Faith and hope are noteworthy elements of our life; they are definitely consistent. When hit with utter hopelessness, the two work wonders and give us elements that help us like a miraculous plank for someone who is drowning. Yet, Faith should not turn us into a bunch of ostriches; it is questioning that enlightens us.

http://iqballatif.newsvine.com/_news/2009/06/28/2977281-some-godly-and-other-not-so-godly-thoughts

  • 4 votes
#4.3 - Wed Feb 9, 2011 11:23 AM EST
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stonesoup68

Excellent article!

  • 7 votes
Reply#5 - Tue Feb 8, 2011 11:19 PM EST
RAY FRIEDMAN

Great well thought out article, that discloses the various underlying processes. It is now time for Egypt to shine and take it's place in modern history, this shall occur if the succeed in the changes to a ffree liberated country that has the pillars of principles based on true equality with the learned lewssons of it's rich heritage and past.Egypt now has the cards to bring stability to the region and to become a power house if the right directiontakes hold.This will not be without pain and hard work, but the rewards will fr outway the alternatives.

  • 6 votes
Reply#6 - Wed Feb 9, 2011 4:36 AM EST
iqbal.latif

Islam is going through a renaissance that it missed for 700 years. (I actually coined the term “missing renaissance”). The factor that helped spread Islam and consolidate its roots – the so-called Golden Age of Islam – in the newly conquered regions was the freedom and tolerance for minorities. The present extremist agenda sadly scorns both these elements. Our misfortune is that we never tried to rekindle our “extinguished renaissance.” Everyone seems to mourn that 'lost glory' of Muslims, but the real causes of their decline are rarely understood. Ordered to seek knowledge and enthused by the intellectual riches of Greek philosophers, Muslims built a civilisation that in the Middle Ages was the centre of the scientific world. Jews, Christians and Muslims all contributed to this flowering of knowledge and thinking, which lasted for at least 500 years and covered the region from Spain to Persia. It flourished because there was in Islam a strong rationalist tradition. It stressed free will and rejected predestination. It was toleration of ideas in which the so-called golden age of Islam burgeoned. Thinkers then were more led by their own conscience than any provincial dogma, a belief system they might have inherited from their ancestors until the 12th century when Muslim Puritanism led by Algazel championed revelation against reason and predestination over free-will relegating mathematics and medicine to a secondary status to the knowledge of religion.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_20-8-2004_pg3_6

  • 6 votes
#6.1 - Wed Feb 9, 2011 9:06 AM EST
The "warrior" of islam

Why Revolutions and change do not appear in vacuum: The basic reason Twitter Revolution failed was due to the fact that a revolution cannot be led by wolves in sheep’s clothing. It owes its whimper fizzling out to the inability of Musavi in completely cutting his strong links with radical Khomeini thoughts; to wipe out the 1979 revolution in Iran, it needs a completely new slate. Revolutions are about replacing old ideas, about hierarchy and tradition with principles of new Enlightenment based on citizenship and inalienable rights. The modern era that has unfolded in the shadow of the French Revolution mark their birth during the Revolution. The growth of republics and liberal democracies, the spread of secularism, the development of modern ideologies and the invention of total war all owe their meteoric rise in the human sphere as a result of revolution.

Revolutions and change do not appear in vacuum. Works and ideas of philosophers and several Enlightenment figures influenced important thinkers of both the American and French Revolutions. The 'academic origins' of the French revolution were John Locke, Montesquieu, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Voltaire, François-Marie Arouet. Revolutions are inspired by the prophets of 'Enlightenment.' Until Iranian/Arab enlightened philosophers are brought ahead of the sacred writings, no 'revolt' is possible. Revolution is freedom of mind from dogma, you cannot have 'dogma and freedom' together - a melange that was proposed by the green so-called democratic forces of Musavi.

Is Iranian/Arab world ready for enlightenment like 'Dechristianisation of France during the French Revolution and Civil Constitution of the Clergy?' The French Revolution brought about a massive shifting of powers from the Roman Catholic Church to the state. Is the Arab world ready to take the powers of the Mullah away? If this happens, revolution in the Iranian/Arab world will be a tradition not an exclusive event. “French society underwent an epic transformation as feudal, aristocratic and religious privileges evaporated under a sustained assault from liberal political groups and the masses on the streets. Old ideas about hierarchy and tradition succumbed to new Enlightenment principles of citizenship and inalienable rights.”

http://iqballatif.newsvine.com/_news/2011/01/22/5896098-revolutions-and-change-do-not-appear-in-vacuum

  • 3 votes
#6.2 - Wed Feb 9, 2011 4:43 PM EST
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backroads

until the 12th century when Muslim Puritanism led by Algazel championed revelation against reason and predestination over free-will relegating mathematics and medicine to a secondary status to the knowledge of religion.

Hence, rote memorization of the Quran at the expense of all else. I cannot ever see, by the way, mullahs and clerics willingly surrendering their power, or being able to separate culture from faith.

  • 6 votes
Reply#7 - Wed Feb 9, 2011 9:26 AM EST
The "warrior" of islam

Why nations and ideologies implode?

http://iqballatif.newsvine.com/_news/2009/02/24/2470430-why-nations-and-ideologies-implode-

  • 5 votes
#7.1 - Wed Feb 9, 2011 4:40 PM EST
iqbal.latif

Why nations and ideologies implode?

Because of non sense like this which is not in short supply in the world of Poiltical Islam:

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Friday that a new Middle East is being created which would be free of the United States and Israel, as he backed the Arab uprisings but warned Egyptians to be watchful of America's "friendly face."

Massive crowds of Iranians, waving flags and chanting "Death to Mubarak!" and "Death to America!" descended on Tehran's Azadi Square (Freedom Square) to listen to the hardliner who lashed out at the West and Israel in a speech marking the 32nd anniversary of the Islamic revolution.

"We will soon see a new Middle East materialising without America and the Zionist regime and there will be no room for world arrogance (the West) in it," Ahmadinejad told the cheering crowds who gathered despite the cold and cloudy weather.

In a speech directed in good part at the Arab uprisings, Ahmadinejad said Egyptians need to be careful of the United States.

"They (the United States) have adopted a friendly face and saying 'we are friends of people of North Africa and Arab countries', but be watchful and united. You will be victorious," he said. "Iranian nation is your friend and it is your right to freely choose your path. Iranian nation backs this right of yours."

Iran, which has no diplomatic ties with Egypt, has expressed its support to the uprising there, with supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei calling for installing an Islamic regime in the world's most populous Arab nation.

In his fiery style, Ahmadinejad, showed his messianic beliefs on Friday, saying the world was witnessing a revolution managed by Imam Mehdi, the 12 Shiite imam who disappeared as a five-year-old in the 10th century and who Shiites believe would return on the judgement day.

"The final move has begun. We are in the middle of a world revolution managed by this dear (12th Imam). A great awakening is unfolding. One can witness the hand of Imam in managing it," said Ahmadinejad, wearing his trademark jacket.

Ahmadinejad, who has often denied the Holocaust, said the United States is an "accomplice to the oppression of the Zionist regime."

"If you want people to trust you, first of all do not interfere in affairs of the region, including in Tunisia and Egypt. Let them be by themselves," he said.

"Come and take away the Zionist regime which is the source of all crimes... take it away and liberate the region. Free the region and give it to the people and take this regime, which is the child of Satan (the United States), out."

Crowds of Iranians chanted pro-Egypt and anti-US slogans as they participated in the regime-organised anniversary celebrations -- a yearly rallying point for the Islamic regime.

Chants of "Marg bar Mubarak (Death to Mubarak)", "Egyptians, Tunisians, your uprisings are just and we are with you" and "Hosni Mubarak 'mubarak' (congratulations) on the uprising of your people!" were heard in streets of Tehran.

Similar marches were taking place in provincial cities.

The 1979 revolution toppled the monarchy of shah Mohammad Reza, a key US ally in the region. Diplomatic relations between Tehran and Washington were broken off soon after and remain so to this day.

"Death to America! Death to Israel!" chanted the crowd as they carried Iranian flags, banners and posters of Iranian revolutionary leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, who led the uprising against the shah, and of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the nation's supreme leader.
The European Union is boycotting events marking the anniversary in protest at the hanging of Zahra Bahrami, an Iranian-Dutch woman executed by Tehran, a diplomatic source said.
The Netherlands has condemned the hanging of Bahrami, who was initially arrested during mass protests over Ahmadinejad's disputed 2009 re-election, which sparked a deadly crackdown, but executed on drug smuggling charges.

Her execution prompted the Dutch government to freeze all diplomatic contact with what it labelled a "barbarous regime" in Iran.

During last year's anniversary rally, Iran's opposition had attempted to stage anti-government demonstrations which were crushed by security forces and the Basij militiamen.
Since then the opposition supporters have stayed off Tehran streets but their leaders Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi have sought to hold a rally on Monday in support of Arab uprisings in the region.

But critics say their plan is to garner their supporters and attempt to stage an anti-government demonstrations.

  • 3 votes
#7.2 - Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:20 AM EST
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Ron-1895187

Its NONE of OUR DAMN Business what happens in Egypt.... That's why it is called Egypt....

We are called America.... Its no ones business what happens here... DITTO to the WORLD!!!

    Reply#8 - Wed Feb 9, 2011 2:51 PM EST
    Zac Aaron

    We are called America.... Its no ones business what happens here...

    When gas prices will reach $4.00+ stability of Middle East becomes our business.

    • 3 votes
    #8.1 - Wed Feb 9, 2011 4:55 PM EST
    backroads

    ron, you appear to pine for a far earlier and simpler time.

    • 6 votes
    #8.2 - Wed Feb 9, 2011 6:13 PM EST
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    Karl-777

    Another superb effort by Iqbal Latif. Thank you, my friend.

    This is a critical time in Egypt’s history.

    Unfortunately for the U.S., little if any of the billions that have been sent to Egypt over the years actually did some good for the common Egyptians. The U. S. has typically just thrown money at whoever is in power and called that “foreign policy”.

    Well guess what, Egyptians have had enough of the corruption, lies and bvllsh!t that have resulted in unemployment, poverty and stagnation. And all of this goes along with the fact that the average Egyptian has little or no voice in the governmental process. Is it any wonder that they are fed up?

    IMO, there are three groups who are largely responsible for much of the misery in human history. They are:

    1 ~ The statist (the state/dictator is god, you may not question the state)

    2 ~ The religionist (you MUST practice my “only true” religion in exactly my way)

    3 ~ The feudal lord (today, this could also include banks and corporations who are protecting their “territories”)

    They have a common goal, which is TOTAL CONTROL.

    They can employ a common tactic, which is FEAR.

    We see these three operating in varying degrees of concert all over the Planet.

    Right now, the Egyptians are basically dealing with group number 1, although there are those from group number 2 who are also on site, waiting for their opportunity.

    Egypt has a long and illustrious history. Its decline began in earnest with the destruction of the great Library of Alexandria by religionist lunatics. The murder of Pagan Scholar Hypatia in 415 CE by deranged Christian monks was one of the most brutal and savage in recorded history. The destruction of the Library, IMO, set the Human Race back 1,000 years. Today, Egypt is still surviving on the remnants of its glorious Pagan past. One can only hope that the Treasures housed in the Egyptian Museum will remain safe from the same types of demented, degenerate filth who destroyed the Bamiyan Buddhas.

    The number of individuals who have perished throughout history at the hands of insane religionists is of course, incalculable. The picture at the top of this page presents the two choices that Egyptians have. On the one hand, it can become a total primitive, backward hell-hole such as Saudi Arabia or Iran. On the other hand, it can blossom and regain the greatness that it once had. I think the vast majority of Egyptians will choose Freedom and Liberty, no matter how much of a struggle it may be.

    ~K

    • 5 votes
    Reply#9 - Wed Feb 9, 2011 9:37 PM EST
    iqbal.latif

    The number of individuals who have perished throughout history at the hands of insane religionists is of course, incalculable. The picture at the top of this page presents the two choices that Egyptians have. On the one hand, it can become a total primitive, backward hell-hole such as Saudi Arabia or Iran. On the other hand, it can blossom and regain the greatness that it once had. I think the vast majority of Egyptians will choose Freedom and Liberty, no matter how much of a struggle it may be.

    ~K

    If the people get the right to vote and the change may happen through the ballot box we shall see if they are pragmatic enough to make the right choice.

    Pride and false honour of ideology is panacea of self destruction, I hope that they are able to say no to religious demagoguery and yes to reason and rationalism.

    • 6 votes
    #9.1 - Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:35 AM EST
    iqbal.latif

    The 18-Day Miracle: Egyptian People Power Ousts Hosni Mubarak

    • 4 votes
    #9.2 - Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:39 PM EST
    iqbal.latif

    Switzerland froze any funds and assets belonging to former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and his immediate circle to prevent their “misappropriation.”

    The Alpine nation “wants to avoid any risk of possible misappropriation” of Egyptian state property, the Bern-based Foreign Ministry said in an e-mailed statement today issued 90 minutes after Mubarak’s resignation was announced in Cairo. The freeze is effective immediately and will last for three years.

    The five-paragraph text didn’t specify the value of Mubarak assets that are in Switzerland.

    Egyptian deposits in Swiss bank and fiduciary accounts totaled 3.6 billion Swiss francs ($3.7 billion) at the end of 2009, according to Swiss National Bank statistics.

    The country on Jan. 19 imposed a similar freeze on assets held by former Tunisian President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali and Ivory Coast leader Laurent Gbagbo. On Feb. 2, the government started a procedure to formally confiscate the Swiss assets of former Haitian ruler Jean-Claude Duvalier, which had been frozen since 1986.

    Switzerland, where an estimated 27 percent of the world’s privately held offshore wealth is managed, has tightened money- laundering rules over the past years as it tries to prevent the inflow of illicit funds.

    Mubarak, 82, stepped down as president of Egypt today and handed power to the military, bowing to the demands of protesters who have occupied central Cairo for the past 18 days calling for an end to his 30-year rule.

    Read more: Switzerland Freezes Mubarak Assets to Thwart ‘Misappropriation’

    • 5 votes
    #9.3 - Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:11 PM EST
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    krishna-167929

    What then? Good question!

    Well Mubarak was indeed a tyrant-- and he has been deposed.

    But so far they still don't have a democracy, nor do they have democratically elected ruler.

    In fact, currently, the country is under military rule: Day of Rage Resurrected: Egypt police tear gas martyr's families

    • 4 votes
    Reply#10 - Fri Jul 1, 2011 4:11 PM EDT
    Emilios

    For what it is worth:


    “The move is part of a general realignment of Hamas’s strategy and allies in the wake of the Arab Spring, especially the impending electoral success of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood,” said David Hartwell, Jane’s senior Middle East and North Africa analyst.

    “Sources in the movement told Jane’s in December that Hamas is downgrading its ties with Syria and Iran, forging new relationships with Egypt, Qatar and Turkey, and perhaps most significantly of all, renouncing armed resistance to Israel and moving to a policy of non-violent resistance.

    “Many of these changes are a direct result of the Arab Spring that has swept the region in 2011.”

    According to Jane’s, the new strategic alliances Hamas has forged with Arab populist movements, led by Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood, have triggered a major strategic debate within the Gaza-based terrorist group.

      Reply#11 - Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:27 AM EST
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